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Is there a huge difference between a FICO credit score and the score given by the 3 credit bureaus?

lamontsmith13 asked:


I’ve already gotten my free credit reports from annualcreditreport.com but now I’m looking to monitor my credit score periodically from all three bureaus. I know that FICO is probably the biggest credit score service is their number that much different than what I’d get from the credit score source that Equifax, Experian and TransUnion use?

I just don’t want to pay so much more for nothing. If FICO says my Experian credit score is 700 and I go to Experian.com and their service says my score is 692, I don’t see the difference.

Thanks.

Adrian

 

How does everyone feel about what the article below addresses?

legend4real asked:


Its long but well worth the read, it’s very informative.

Equifax, Experian and Transunion have begun limited marketing of a new consumer credit scoring algorithm to Risk Based Lenders. According to David Rubinger of Equifax, the planned nationwide rollout to Risk Based Lenders is scheduled for July, and will be followed, approximately 9 months later, with the public disclosure of these scores to consumers.

An algorithm is a mathematical formula that is written to assign value to specific data in order to attain a final score. Risk Based Lenders are financial institutions that lend money based upon a consumer’s credit history and the consumer’s ability and historical willingness to repay a loan. These types of lenders cover the full range of financial institutions lending money for credit cards, auto loans, unsecured loans and mortgage loans.

David Rubinger, the national marketing contact for Equifax, explained “approximately one year ago, the analytical managers for the 3 credit bureaus got together for the purposes of addressing variations within the present scoring models in use. Under the current system, the three major credit-reporting agencies use three different algorithms that produce three different and unique scores, regardless of the data being scored. The primary issue to be addressed was how they could create a solution for Risk Based Lenders who wanted fewer variations within the credit scoring models they were using to make lending decisions.”

The solution for the three agencies was to create a single algorithm that would produce a more “predictive score” by creating a single variable in scoring, which would be the data. To do this, they came up with a solution that involved creating an independent company called VantageScore, LLC. Each credit-reporting agency would own an equal share in the company, and purchase a license to use and sell the resulting scores to risk based lenders under the VantageScore service mark. The hard part was creating the uniform scoring that the three credit-reporting agencies were attempting to design and sell.

To achieve as close a model as possible, the three credit agencies tested the initial base algorithm on 15 million active credit files. Throughout the testing process, changes were made to the algorithm as were needed to create a more stable scoring model until the finished product created an acceptable level of score variance in the finished product.

By creating an independent LLC company, the three credit reporting agencies are now able to offer a single product that has only one variable, the data being scored. Where the credit information reported is the same, the score for a consumer file will be the same, regardless of whether the score comes from Transunion, Experian, or Equifax. Where the credit information is different, the variations in the actual score will be significantly reduced.

Under the new VantageScore product, the three agencies decided to change the scoring formula from its current 450 to 850 scoring range to a new 501 to 990 range. When asked about why they would do this, Rubinger responded, “The new scoring model is to help consumers better understand their credit score. By basing it on a grading scale used throughout the K through 12 school system, consumers can look at their score and know exactly what they have”. Unfortunately for Risk Based Lenders, the new scoring model will require they spend thousands of dollars in updating software to incorporate the new scoring model.

When asked about some of the negative aspects of the change, Mr. Rubinger declined to answer any questions.

The initial question that Down Payment Solutions has relates to anti-trust laws and where the congressional oversight is. As we only have three major Credit Reporting Agencies, how is it they can bypass any oversight to create an LLC company in order to offer a single uniform product in which all can sell, with the goal appearing to be the complete replacement of the present day independent scoring algorithms?

When contacted for comment on this matter, the Department of Justice - Anti-Trust division - declined comment and suggested consumers who have concerns should e-mail them at antitrust.complaints@usdoj.gov. Neither Senator Bill Nelson (D - FL), Senator Mel Martinez (R - FL), Congressman Jim Davis (D-FL) or Congressman Michael Bilirakis (R- FL) offices would offer any comments for this article.

Jan Helder of the Helder Law Firm called the formation of a LLC by the three Credit Reporting Agencies “shady, at best” and advised that, unfortunately for consumers, they “cannot file an anti-trust suit until they have experienced a financial loss resulting from the new VantageScore credit scoring system, and then they will have to prove financial loss in court.” This will be well after low to moderate-income families, and the businesses dependent upon them, have felt the tightening of credit nationwide.

“The new VantageScore model creates a significant financial risk to consumers in their ability to obtain affordable financing,” according to Dwayne Singletary of Allstate Mortgage and Loan Corp in Tampa, Florida. “Many risk-based lenders in the mortgage industry use all three credit-reporting scores–also known as a Tri-Merged Credit Report–and have programs that allow them to use the credit-reporting agency that has the highest credit score. A reduction in that higher score will most likely result in home buyers needing more money out of pocket for a down payment, or require them to pay a higher rate of interest…” under the VantageScore model, whether refinancing or purchasing.

In the installment and revolving credit market, most risk-based lenders do not use the scores from all three reporting agencies. Rather, each lender selects the reporting agency that best fits their type of borrower. A reduction in any one score across any credit-reporting agency, via adoption of the VantageScore algorithm, could result in consumers being unable to obtain credit, or consumers paying a significantly higher rate of interest to borrow the same money tomorrow, versus what they would pay under the current separate credit-scoring models.

Rubinger contends the new scoring model is designed to help consumers better understand their score. However, given the thousands of dollars in financial costs that will be incurred by Risk Based Lenders in updating programming, it leaves the impression the new scoring model may actually be designed to mislead consumers into believing the new VantageScore system actually improves their credit scores.

Under the current system, in theory, if a consumer has a Transunion credit score of 600, then potentially under the new VantageScore model, they could have a score as high as 720. This certainly would go a long way towards silencing a potential consumer backlash if someone with challenged credit sees a dramatic increase in their credit score. This is potentially misleading, and may be the reason for the delay in consumers having access to their new VantageScore credit score for any given credit-reporting agency.

At present, it has not been disclosed how consumers will know what model they are being scored under. As consumers apply for credit, most will assume they are being scored under existing Credit Models, when in fact; they may have been scored under the VantageScore system if a particular financial institution adopted it.

Consumers who are concerned about the potential implications that VantageScore has on their financial future should contact the DOJ - Anti-Trust Division. In addition, we strongly encourage you to contact your Congressman via www.congress.org.

Down Payment Solutions believes that before this new Credit Scoring System is implemented, both the DOJ and Congress have some over sight as to how, when and if Transunion, Experian and Equifax, can implement this type of product in order to protect every American consumer and the businesses dependent upon them.

You are free and encouraged to reproduce, link to, e-mail and redistribute this article in its entirety as long as you leave the below author information intact.

Author: George Chaney, President, Down Payment Solutions, Inc. http://www.downpaymentsolutions.com

Carla

 

Why is it necessary to do Credit report repair?

Isabel asked:


Is it necessary to do credit report repair?

Credit report repair will surely help you to improve your credit report and thereby increase your credit score. It is process that eliminates the negative remarks and gives you a good credit report. There are many people who are unaware of repairing their credit report and thereby create obstacle to get credit extension. You can even repair your credit report timely or by checking it periodically.

With the help of good credit report you can have credit flexibility through which you can get credit at low interest rate. One should not get tired of bad credit report but seek suitable measures to improve it. Self-credit repair can be a difficult task but with the help of many online services one can easily repair it by one self. Below are a few tips, which can help you to repair your credit report.

• Order Credit Report

This is your first step in which you must order the credit report from all the credit bureaus. Don’t be surprised to see different credit report ratings as different credit bureau have different ways to maintain a credit report.

• Check Credit Report

In this step you must check your report carefully and slowly. It is quite general to find at least one error in one of the three reports.

• Document and Dispute Strategy

Any mistake in your credit report must be informed to the credit bureau. Finding the reason behind any error is equally important, as you understand your credit report. Maintain up to date copy of each and every document that can be used as future reference.

• Dissolve the Debts

Clear your debts payment if you are liable for it. This step is of vital importance, which can help you to improve your credit report rating.

Other Information

If you have unnecessary accounts then close it instantly. Remember Zero balance account is also taken into consideration. Verify each and every account that exists.



QUINCY
 

Consumer Credit Report - Do You Know What Yours Says?

John Mcfadden asked:


A consumer credit report is the annual assessment of each person’s credit standing. By knowing what is on your you can get a lot of benefits when you go to get credit based services like loans, credit cards and even rent and phones.

Each year, by law, American citizens are entitled to obtain a free copy of their annual consumer credit report which basically details their credit risk profile. This allows companies who are considering extending some type of credit to the consumer to make an educated decision on the risk of that transaction. The better the credit of the consumer, then the better chance that company has of being paid back by the consumer.

By having a good credit report, a consumer can gain advantages such as cheaper loans and credit cards and avoid the embarrassment of being rejected for things like rental apartments and telephone contracts.

There are three companies which can offer a free consumer credit report (Experian, TransUnion, and Equifax) and are legally obliged to offer that annually.

By knowing what is in your credit report, you can negotiate for better credit condition (if you’re report is good) or you can strive to repair your credit by challenging inaccurate or false items on your report.

To do that, you simply need to obtain a copy, unfortunately you need to actually a report from all three credit bureaus. Why, because lenders don’t report to each bureaus, they just report to one with your past financial information - so if you only obtain a copy of one report then you will not have your complete financial position and history, it is recommended that you get all three reports - they way you know where you stand and you start improving nay negative information, it is common for your personal information to be old or incorrect.

Make sure you update them with your correct address. Be sure not to use companies that claim they can quickly improve your credit score, they are most likely to be scammers.

Assess the items on it that are negatively affecting your credit score and challenge those items to the relevant consumer reporting company. That company is then legally obliged to pursue the matter.

The thing is that challenging your credit report takes knowledge and time and so it may often be a better option to hire a credit reporting company to do the leg work on your behalf.

It’s essential you know how lenders will read and give weight to different parts of your Credit Report:

The American company FiCO has a tool that helps credit bureaus determine your credit score - below is the matrix that is used:

Payment History 35%

Amount Owed 30%

Length of Credit History 15%

New Credit 10%

Types of Credit Used 10%

Such companies know exactly what can be challenged as well as how to do it and who to contact about your credit.

By having a good credit report, you can make your own life a lot easier and cheaper in the long run.

Hopefully this article has been helpful for you and you will now know exactly what yours says.



DONNIE
 

Check My Credit Report - How Often Should I?

Mike Clover asked:


Checking your free credit score report is probably one of the hottest topics these days. With the average American not being rich, and at times in need of a loan, they need to keep there credit score healthy. There will be situations where someone will need to pull your credit report. If you have bad credit, it may not be a good experience for you. There is lots of talk about annualcreditreport, but there is not much talk about not getting your credit score there. Annualcreditreport does provide you with a free credit report from all 3 credit bureaus, but you don’t get your scores. You can get this report once a year for free. A lot can happen to your credit report during a year’s time. Here are some examples.

Inaccurate credit report

Studies show that inaccuracies are common in credit reports and can harm your ability to get loans. Inaccurate information on your credit will cause harm to your credit rating. When your credit rating is jeopardized, so is the ability to get loans, good interest rates, or even that new “Dream Job.” Often there is human error involved in the reporting process. Creditors pay someone to report information about you. At times this information may have been keyed in incorrectly, and as a result your credit score drops.

Identity Theft Protection

Someone’s identity is stolen every 3 seconds. If you think about that, someone could be stealing your identity as you read this article. That is pretty scary. If an identity thief has got your information currently and is out using your credit, how would you ever find out without pulling your credit report? Maybe someone is out opening credit in your name, and charging up stuff. What ever the thief is doing, you are probably not going to find out about it until it’s too late. If you get credit report monitoring services set up, you would get e-mail alerts when critical changes take place to your credit report. Critical changes like someone opening credit in your name and out having a field day with your credit.

Conclusion:

Checking your credit report should not be a scary thing, it should be a positive thing. If you are managing your credit properly, then you will pull your credit in confidence. You will be able to go to creditors and get good interest rate loans with ease. Since a lot can happen to your credit in such a short time, you should get a copy of your free credit score report every 60 to 90 days. Checking your credit report once a year is asking for a disaster, and is total disregard for what is really going on out there Protect yourself by staying on top of your report. I would not wait for it to happen to you, check your free credit score report today.



RAYMUNDO
 

How To Get Rid Of Bad Information On Your Credit Report By Writing Letters

Helen Hecker asked:


Assuming you already have a copy of your annual credit report you may have already found some errors that should be removed. Errors should always be a big concern because they can and probably have affected your credit score, also called a FICO. You can repair your credit with a little bit of help.

It may seem like a lot of work but it’s really easy. The hardest part is actually sitting down to do it. You’ll need to check all three credit bureaus to make sure the same error isn’t on all three but if you just have one credit report, start with that one.

First make a list of any and all errors that you find on your personal credit report. These could be in the form of personal information such as birth date or more likely there will be information that you know not to be true such as late payments or no payments recorded etc. If you think there is any possibility that you could be wrong check your past history with the creditor in question first.

You want to make sure you are right before you make the request to have any information removed from your credit report.

You will be sending the letter only to the credit bureau mentioned on the report, which would be Esperian, Equifax or TransUnion. You don’t want to sound angry in the letter, just be matter-of-fact, straightforward and business-like. Just outline the facts - name of creditor, dates, and the error(s) or problem(s) you’re finding on the credit report.

Here is a sample letter:

Date:

To whom it may concern at Esperian (or other credit bureau):

I recently acquired a copy of my credit report and found some errors that I’d like to dispute. I am enclosing documentation to prove the information is incorrect and would like a correction. I value my good standing and good credit history and want to maintain a good credit rating and credit score.

Name the creditor along with the reference date including the month, day and year if possible.

The error(s) I have found are:

I’m including copies of my payment record, with a (cancelled check or online payment print-outs or any other documentation that you have).

I would appreciate any attention to the matter as I would like my credit report to be accurate. I’m sure you understand that credit bureaus need to include only information that is accurate in my file.

Thank you for taking a look at my letter and file and hopefully making the necessary corrections so I can continue to maintain my good credit standing. Please let me know that my file has been reviewed and what action has been taken. I would also like a copy of my corrected credit report sent to the enclosed address. Thank you.

Sincerely,

Besides your full name as shown on the report, include you mailing address, a copy of the report that you have, your social security number, driver’s license photocopy and any other documentation such as a cancelled check or online payment confirmations.

Make a copy of the letter for yourself and a copy of any enclosures with the letter. Send the dispute letter by certified mail with a ‘return receipt’ requested. Then make sure to get the free credit reports from the other two main credit bureaus or reporting agencies to make sure they don’t have the same incorrect information. You can get free instant credit reports from the other two online.



BENJAMIN
 

Will your dispute be investigated quicker through mail or online?

Jen asked:


I just disputed 5 things on my credit report to all 3 credit bureaus at the same time. Regarding, incorrect credit balances and payment status. how long will this take to get straightened out? I did it online.

LON
 

Clean Up your Credit Report

Ronnica Rothe asked:


Your credit report is used by lenders to determine whether you are a fit candidate for a loan. If you want to buy a house or car in the future, now is the time to start working on cleaning up your credit report. Obtain a free copy of your credit report and look it over to see what the creditors use to determine your eligibility for loans.

There are probably both positive and negative items on your credit report. The positive items, such as staying current on your accounts, being employed, and having checking and saving accounts, will stay on your credit report indefinitely. You want these items on your credit report because they help to counteract whatever negative items you have. There is no need to act to have them removed. However, if you see that you are missing accounts that you have good history with, even if it is simply a small store card, you should contact the creditor to get them added to your report.

If you have made any financial mistakes in the past, they are probably present on your credit report. Negative items such as credit card defaults, repossessions, foreclosures, and chapter 13 bankruptcies will remain on your credit report for seven years. Chapter 7 bankruptcies will stay on your report for ten years, while any unpaid tax liens will stay on your credit report for fifteen years. These items remain because creditors want to see what risks they may take on when lending money to you.

If negative items have remained on your credit report beyond the limits specified above or if they are inaccurate, it is time to dispute them with the credit bureau. You will need to do so with each of the credit bureaus individually if the item existed on all three credit reports. Disputing items has been made simple and can be done easily when pulling your free credit report. You should expect to hear back from the credit bureau in about a month. When you receive the documentation on what corrections were made, check to make sure that the problem has been completely taken care of. If the report is still not quite accurate, you can do a second dispute by personal letter. Explain the problem fully, providing documentation to back up your case. Make sure to keep copies of all correspondence with the credit bureaus.

If you have defaulted on a credit card or other loan, you may want to talk to the creditor to negotiate a deal to get your account up to current. However, if you do not plan on paying the debt, do not contact the creditor because it may restart the clock for having the item dropped from your credit report.

There are several other steps you can take to build your credit. Open a checking or savings account with a bank or credit union. If you have enough self-discipline not to rack up debt, get a credit card and use it sparingly, always paying off your balance in full each month. Using credit responsibly can go a long way to proving that you are capable of handling larger purchases.

It is a good idea to check your credit report on a yearly basis to make sure that everything is doing well. Take advantage of the free yearly credit reports from each of the three major credit reporting bureaus. If you have further questions on how to build or clean up credit, talk to a credit counselor.



HARVEY
 

How Your Credit Report and Credit Score are Used

Lisa Nichols asked:


Your credit report and your credit score are used by a variety of businesses to help them learn more about you. Anyone with a business need and your permission is allowed to see your credit report or credit score. In some cases, your permission isn’t even needed for someone to view your credit history.

When Your Permission Isn’t Needed to View Your Credit Report

Lenders and credit card companies partner with the credit bureaus to be able to send customers promotional offers. These companies don’t need your permission to view your credit report. You’ve already provided them with tacit permission to review your credit history by not submitting a request to be taken off their mailing lists. This request form is available from each of the three credit bureaus.

Prospective Landlords Can See Your Credit Report

Landlords are allowed to run credit reports and background checks on prospective tenants. Landlords use this information to decide if they want to rent to applicants. If a credit report has issues or problems, a landlord may still choose to rent to the applicant, but he or she is legally allowed to charge an additional fee or increased security deposit.

Hiring Companies and Insurance Companies Can See Credit Reports and Scores

Hiring companies and insurance companies can see your credit score or credit report. Hiring companies use the information contained in a credit report to get a big picture view of prospective employees. Insurance companies use information they see on a credit score or credit report to help determine rates and eligibility for insurance. Both types of businesses must request permission in writing before reviewing a credit report; this is usually part of a job application or an application for insurance.

Lenders and Creditors Can Review Credit Scores

Lenders and credit card companies can review credit scores and credit reports to determine credit worthiness when you’ve applied for a loan or a credit card. In addition, if you have open loans or credit card accounts, those lenders and creditors can also review your credit to monitor changes.

Experian Triple Advantage Allows You to Review Credit Report

See what others are seeing when they review your credit report with Experian Triple Advantage. Order a copy of your credit report and credit score online. Then, use customized tips provided by Experian Triple Advantage to improve your credit score.



RAMIRO
 

Get Free Credit Report -Report From All 3 Bureaus 100% Free

Tarun Jaswani asked:


It is important to be aware about your credit score before looking to apply for mortgage or availing the facility of credit card. It is really a good idea to verify credit rating from different credit bureaus at different period of time in order to secure the identity, which can be very beneficial in preventing identity theft. Identity theft is possible when unknown person pulls out the credit report of individual for different reasons such as taking mortgage or availing credit card services which can ruin the credit rating of the victim if the accused person makes irregular payments on mortgage or credit card existing debts.

Credit report provides all the details to the people regarding their credit status in the market after taking into consideration all the transactions.These transactions are related to the credit taken by the borrowers for their personal as well as commercial purposes.

The credit reports are usually provided by credit bureaus to all the financial institutions, banks, mortgage lenders of different lending institutions, credit card companies, who deal with people on the basis of their creditworthiness.

The report can be accessed by the individual if he is not working from last 60 days or looking to join somewhere professionally in next 30-45 days. The person need to apply for free credit report if his credit rating is very poor or marginal.

The people are provided with mortgage, credit cards and many other facilities on their basis of their credit report in the market.Availing the service of free credit report results in continuous credit inspection of the people,which results in avoiding bad credit report in the market.

Credit status can be accessed from any of the main credit bureaus available in the market, which are Experian, Equifax and TransUnion after every financial year. This can ensure the individual that there correct credit report has been provided to different banks, financial institutions and prominent mortgage lenders in exact relation to their financial strength.

The report also protects the people from theft of their identity in the city, avoiding any sort of mis happening.

There are many credit check programs,which are arranged for the people in the country to get provided with free credit report. All the major credit reporting organizations mainly credit bureaus launch their website along with their toll free number and mailing address of credit bureaus.Consumer need to request the report from three different credit bureaus at the same time or some different scenarios according to the requirement.

The free credit report is provided to the consumers at that point of time if they apply for their credit scores instantly at their respective websites of specific credit bureau. Applicants have to be cautious regarding their typing mistakes, which can lead to expenses. It is because of providing the information in the wrong website related to free credit report status,that individuals get charged for credit report which is actually free.

There are many people who can apply for free credit report over the toll free number or mailing them at the provided address, it takes at least 15 days of time, which is provided on the basis of time period required by the credit bureaus to extract the credit detail of each applicant.



VICENTE